NOT LEGAL ADVICE
Upon being presented an legal “offer”, always use a simple jurisdictional challenge first. Before using subrogation or anything complex – start asking (as-king) the questions – start at any point you discover this material as well. Keep asking (as-king) questions, not just making statements that box you in.
This has been done in person or simply in writing on a copy of their document, in response to any tickets, summons, child support claim, property tax, tax bill, etc.
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ASK YOUR QUESTIONS (and you likely won't hear from them again).
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Julie M. Post on Youtube –
I can stop them with one sentence:
(memorize this before you finish this article)
“Before I consent to proceed I have this inquiry for the record. As director and beneficiary of my legal person/corporation – you have 21 days to respond in writing and provide proof of claim as to your legal or lawful authority as a public servant, to bother me at all. Do you understand?” (repeat as needed – they may try to to get you off point)
They rarely respond because they don't have authority, and then the ball is in your court. The burden of proof is on them before this proceeds. Case closed, you can win by legal default – Nearly every time. Just be sure to send a simple Notice of Default along with copy of the original letter you are referring to, to create the record of their default, and stay on point. Do not get distracted into arguing the case or dealing with a plea.
Member Quote – “I used it to take myself off of 5 years probation for cultivation (after conviction), I use it for all “tickets” they write me, I use it for the property taxes they have no right to collect. I use it for everything”.
Keeping it simple still matters folks. Try it and update us with your stories. Make it part of your next court or legal event. Simply hand write it on a copy of their notice, ticket, summons, indictment, etc – their “bill” is in fact your the remedy. So send it back with this polite question once you discover this information now, or in the future – within 72 hours of receipt in the future if you can. Do your best. Then send a default 21 days, after they fail to respond. Keep records and use confirmed certified mail delivery for your proof and record.
If they drag you into court it is your best evidence, and keep staying on this point. Their failure to respond is default, period.
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If I have already claimed not to be the surety in a traffic case. Am I claiming to be the surety by using this phrase in the article? Is it a conflict?
THERE IS HUGE difference between making statements and asking and forcing burden of roof on them. IT IS ESSENTIAL to always put things in the context of THEM proving authority (not just saying they have it) vs you making crazy statements they can nail you on.
So just come back and update you questions. It is an inquiry.
Why would ever want surety liability? The servants have that duty and try to trick you into accepting by NOT making this point that you are beneficiary not trustee/liable/surety.
In the case of a traffic citation when there is no address to the plaintiff (officer), would it suffice to send to the court clerk? In my case, I don’t know what district the state trooper is stationed, so I’d be guessing if I sent it by mail addressed to him at a potentially incorrect location.
ANYONE TRIED THIS METHOD AND HAD SUCESS
Many students have used similar processes. The specific script I gave was from someone he’s used it multiple times. It won’t work if you don’t use it though and if you don’t understand what you’re trying to do.
Hi Folks, first-time poster here, so forgive if OT and let me know the proper forum. It’s something I’ve just come across and can find no mention of it anywhere.
In preparing for a traffic case coming up in a couple of weeks, I noticed that on my traffic ticket (which styles itself a “Summons” in my state), when the officer presented the instrument to me for my signature he had already marked an “X” on the signature line before giving it to me. One could easily take that simply as a casual indicator of where to sign, but I looked on other tickets, whether actual ones I’ve held in my hand or pictures online, dozens of these or a hundred or so, and invariably there is an “X” put there by the officer, or sometimes even pre-printed in red, but it’s always there. It’s clearly a policy, and no way it could be an accident.
That means that my signature is really an endorsement. What are people’s thoughts?
Yes i fo thi k you are rivht. Ive also heard to circle the x
Loved this post!
It really fits in nicely to questioning everything, rather than blindly accepting anything.
I could see with a slight ‘tweak’, this might be used even with people rather than just written claims..
“Before I consent to proceed, I have this inquiry for the record. As director and beneficiary of my legal person/corporation – please provide proof as to your legal or lawful authority as a public servant, to bother me at all. Do you understand?”
And for a road-side encounter where the response by the ‘authority’ becomes a threat (aka ‘order’),
“For the record, I will comply with your order, but my compliance is only under duress and the fear of physical harm, as you are a man with a gun who failed to demonstrate any legal authority as requested.”
But lets first try avoid the whole encounter. 🙂
I have trained myself to use the following mantras
“As Paramount interest security holder for the property both registered and unregistered together with the filed common law copyright and therefore owner of the legal named instrument…….”
In your opinion is there great difference from the above and the “As director and beneficiary of my legal person….”
and if so how much difference and where or what is the Differentiating factor(s)
Thank You for all you do.
Should we sign our name after the statement?
Will this be useful if just served with a contempt summons (for not following through with void order)?